Showing posts with label epoxy cost. Show all posts
Showing posts with label epoxy cost. Show all posts

Monday, February 13, 2023

How much will it cost for my epoxy garage floor?

 


Epoxy Flooring Cost Estimate


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What's the cost for a two car garage epoxy floor



The cost of an epoxy floor for a two-car garage can vary greatly depending on several factors, such as the size of the garage, the type of epoxy being used, and the location. On average, you can expect to pay between $5 and $12 a sq ft for a high-quality epoxy floor installation.

Why the large gap?

It's important to keep in mind that there are several different types of epoxy floor coatings, each with their own advantages and disadvantages, as well as varying levels of durability and aesthetic appeal.

Some factors that can impact the cost of the project include:

  • The size of the garage: Larger garages will require more material, which will increase the cost of the project.


  • The type of epoxy being used: Higher-quality epoxies tend to cost more, but they also offer better durability, resistance to chemicals and stains, and improved aesthetics.


  • The complexity of the project: If your garage has a complicated floor plan, such as multiple levels or curves, the installation process may be more time-consuming and expensive.


  • The location of the garage: Prices for epoxy flooring can vary depending on the region, with prices being higher in some areas compared to others.

It's always a good idea to get multiple quotes from different contractors to get an accurate estimate for the cost of your project.

However, for the homeowner, it is very difficult to tell the difference between one contractors promises and what you actually receive.

Not everything called epoxy is actually epoxy, coatings from big box stores are very thin "epoxy"

A professional epoxy flooring contractor should be giving you ten times the thickness of a lower grade floor like that.




Saturday, June 27, 2020

Fake Epoxy Floor Warranties

Good afternoon, everybody. It's Ryan, Amato, you know, from ryan amato painting and Amato Media.

So we're gonna talk about warranties today. The good, the bad and yup the ugly. I've been around this painting business for a long time. So warranties there always a hot topic, but I didn't know. How hot until we got involved in the epoxy floor business.

And then you start to see some really crazy things with warranties. So I want to jump right into that. We're gonna talk about long term warranty, short term warranties, no warranties.

And you know what's best for your company? What's not best for your company. And we'd love to hear some feedback on whatever what everybody else is offering out there. So, um, we'll go right into it for our painting company.

It's pretty basic, and I bet you the warranties are probably the same. We offer a one year warranty off of labor. Just saying that we've we've applied the products correctly as per the manufacturer.

If if it required two coats, we put two coats on. If it was one cut, we put one coat on. If it was a bear service and be primes, we primed it accordingly.

And as per the specifications of the topcoat. So it's important guys to make sure that you're applying the products correctly because what will happen is if you have a paint failure. Obviously the customer's gonna call your first because they don't want to pay for it to be fixed.

But the paint manufacturer is gonna come out, and they have the means to figure out what you did. So if you're out there trying to cut corners and skimp on materials or prep, just know that, yeah, you may get away with it one time two times three times, but eventually somebody's gonna call you out on it, and they're gonna come out and take some samples of the paint chips and send it back to their to their lab.

I mean, I know sure when williams does this, and I know benjamin moore does it. I'm sure all the other companies do it as well. They can take a look at things and know if you sanded properly.

If you primed what other coatings were on there? So they're gonna know right away. There's no lying about it. So do the right thing and make sure everything's good. Typically, most warranty issues aren't gonna be because of the labor. Anyway, it's gonna be other issues moisture expansion and contraction on the outside the buildings.

So don't worry. You're not gonna have the huge run on people claiming warranties against you, even for us. We've only had a few over the years, and some of them we don't even question. We just go out and fix them. It's not worth it.

It's not worth having to go out. Take a look at it. Take your paint manufacturer out there. By the time you're going back and forth, you've spent 34 hours trying to figure it out and the touch ups only an hour.

So just do the touch up. Now there's other companies. I know that offer. Um, you know, free touch ups for life. They offer lifetime warranties. They offer three year warranties seven year warranties for commercial painting. Typically, you're going to get a one year warranty, and that's it.

And I know sherwin williams in many cases, doesn't warranty commercial work or the commercial coating, so just keep that in mind. But what we really want to talk to you today about are the epoxy floors and the craziness that I see doing epoxy floor estimates.

So i'll be honest. I wasn't aware that other people were offering these astronomically long warranties on floors, and the reason I never even considered it is because they're they're absolutely ridiculous.

Anybody who does coatings in general, especially concrete coatings, knows that again, as long as you did the proper preparation. Most issues that are going toe happen on concrete are not gonna be covered under a warranty.

So let me say that again. Most issues that happened to concrete will not be covered under a warranty unless you messed up on the preparation. So when I started doing estimates for epoxy floors and people would say, oh, what your warranty and would say, oh, it's, you know, one year, whatever it was one year, three years and they say, boy, I just had another company out here who who's national, and they're offering a lifetime warranty on their coding.

Well off. Of course, they're offering a lifetime warranty on the coding because it's not going to be the coatings fault. When the floor fails, it's gonna be your concrete.

So they're gonna find every way to not warranty that floor for you. Trust me, there's going to be moisture issues. Warranties don't cover moisture issues.

There's going to be, ah, adhesion issues because of moisture. Again, there could be other vapers pushing up through the concrete there. There's most certainly can be movement of concrete.

What happens with epoxy floors is the epoxy is not flexible, like a typical acrylic paint that you use on your house and the epoxy cracks. And there you have a failure. And guess what?

It's not covered under warranty, so it's a big, huge sales pitch. Guys, you're going to see lifetime warranties number one, these companies air coming in from out of the area.

I would hope that everybody would try to use a local business, um, whether you they use you or they use me or they use somebody, you want to keep that money local.

So it's going and flowing through the local economy. There's no reason in our area or in most areas, unless you're very rural, that you need to use a nationwide company to do almost any service.

There's no need. So, you know, if a company's traveling 60 miles away to come do your epoxy floor, i'm sure you have another company locally that can do it, because think about it again. Guys. There six through an hour away.

Something happens to your floor. Do you think they're coming back out? Honestly, because I can answer it for you. They might eventually get out there to you, but they're not coming out any time soon.

So again, back to the warranties. It's all a sales picture. They're gonna come out there with their fancy binders and samples and show you all these different beautiful floors they've done. No matter what type of floor you're looking for, they're going to show you all their nice little samples.

They're going to give you a price right on the spot. They're gonna try to give you a discount if you sign up right away. It's very much like a used car sales person they're gonna show this this great, wonderful warranty that if anything ever happens to this floor, they're gonna take care of it for you.

And you sign on the dotted lines because you want this great deal. They they set you up. They come in with the beautiful vehicles. The job's done in one day and they're out so that hopefully nothing happens to the floor because i'm telling you the warranties air bullshit.

The warranties are not going to cover what you think they're going to cover. But let's say that it does cover. Let's say they didn't prepare the floor correctly.

I don't know how they're never going to admit that, but you have a spot on your floor that the tire sits on that maybe failed. So look at the warranty again.

It doesn't say they're going to redo the floor for you. They're going to, and this is the same for us. They're not going to redo the whole floor for your they're going to fix the area of failure only so if that area is a circle you know the size of maybe a hockey puck, that's the area they're going to fix on the floor, not the whole floor.

So, yes, it's possible that you could get a fix. But again, not the whole floor. You're never gonna have a whole floor fail. I don't know if i've ever i've seen one i'm looking at right now. It was a commercial floor that the contractor never grinded properly or grind it at all. So that means higher coating had to be pulled up.

But guess what? It wasn't a warranty claim. They hired us to come in and do it. We just had another one. It was a puppy. Daycare, beautiful building.

Just had the floor done three years ago. As soon as I got there and pulled up the piece that's peeling up, I could see the floor wasn't grinded again. So but guess what?

It wasn't a warranty claim again. It was pay for the whole floor again from a different company. I see it all the time. I see people who use the products that are from home depot and lowe's thea pox ease the poxy kits. There really nice and fancy boxes.

He open him up. Everything's in there. Probably some gloves and everything. An applicator and guess what they don't last when something seems too good to be true. It certainly is usually so remember, with all these warranties, you have to open up your eyes. I have thinks it's it's very much like going to buy a car, the's sales person or professional that are better than I am.


They're coming out there to sell you something. That's all they do all day long, and they're getting bonus for it. They're getting commissions for trust me, they're not the local business who may be the owners on site doing the flora's well, who is not getting commission, who's just trying to make his little business run properly and be successful with all these hard times that everybody's going through the's air? Very large corporations and companies who who have trained professional salespeople looking to just get you to sign that contract and get you into a long term warranty that means nothing.

So I appreciate you guys listening. Remember, it's ryan amato, d amato podcast. Www dot amato podcast dot com.

Check us out on youtube at Ryan Amato Painting l l c. We have a ton of information on there. I appreciate it

Wednesday, June 24, 2020

Price Alone Does Not Make A Great Epoxy Floor

Why Simply Getting A Price Is Wrong 

When getting information and pricing for your epoxy floor project we sometimes simply have people tell us " I have a two car garage"How much will my floor be?

While we wish it was this easy and many companies will simply throw pricing around this is not a professional or accurate way to give a proposal for your epoxy floor.

There are many factors such as what's currently on the floor? How much patching will you need on your garage floor? Thue products and look you want? 

This is not your typical paint job , anyway even if everyone used the same products, same application the prices would never be the same. Your forgetting about level of service, a real warranty for your epoxy floor. Are they local?

You have to answer many questions and much more than how much will the floor be.

Please listen to our weekly show where we went deep into this topic



Saturday, June 20, 2020

So you would like an epoxy floor

Getting an epoxy floor is not an easy task, finding the right painter, epoxy company is hard to say the least. Doing it yourself is possible but not probable using professional products.

So what does a homeowner do? Watch our video above for more information on getting an epoxy floor for your garage or business.

If you are looking for an experienced Northampton & Lehigh County painter then please call (484) 821-7112


Friday, May 22, 2020

Polyaspartic vs Epoxy Floor

Polyaspartic Vs Epoxy
Garage Floor Coating:

What is the difference?


We are asked this question all of the time in our daily epoxy floor estimates, on the phone, by new technicians and it is a great one, so let's dive into epoxy coatings and get some of the mystery answered.

Both options offer a durable and cosmetically pleasing result and you will hear different opinions on each from almost everyone. let's weigh the pro's and con's of each.


Durability

   A polyapartic coating is a hard, flexible finish that is durable, wont chip or 
scratch.

 Epoxy is a hard finish but it is rigid and vulnerable to abrasion

Polyaspartic is the clear winner here



Cost

Polyaspartic is certainly more expensive and requires increased installation costs due to the short cure time in the bucket, it needs more people to apply it

Epoxy is the more affordable coating here. 

Dry Time

Polyaspartic, One layer can dry in an hour or less
Epoxy can take up to 16 hours to dry so polyaspartic is the better choice here

Diy Installation

Polyaspartic is not for the new painter, even an experienced applicator can have issues with it

Epoxy can be done with some experience , the proper tools and help but when things don't go as planned is when you need an experienced contractor

Non Slip

Both can be made to be non slip with additives, we do not or recommend not adding non slip additives to any floor.

Uv Stability

This is the big one, polyasaprtic coatings won't fade or yellow while epoxy can lose its sheen and color very quickly when exposed to the uv.



With our floors we like to use an epoxy undercoat and a polyaspartic top coat for the ultimate benefit from both

You can choose almost any color flake to make your floor your own creation and something to wow your neighbors.


Proper Prep

It goes without saying the proper prep of your floor is the most important thing you can do.
Without the proper knowledge, equipment and products your floor will be doomed to a coating failure. 

We have seen many floors fail, even ones that we were told we grinded by other companies.
The proper concrete surface profile (CSP) is key to a good coating.

All epoxy and polyaspartic coatings will come with specifications needed to apply them and there will be listed the minimum csp needed.

We like to have our floors feel like sandpaper before we coat them, this usually cannot be done properly without a diamond grinder. As you can see you need more and more specialized equipment to do your epoxy floor correctly.

By the time yiu would rent all of this, buy the materials and risk applying them and mixing them correctly, you could of hired someone to do the floor professionally in most cases.

Pro's and Cons Of Each Floor

Pro's of an epoxy floor

Affordable: if your working on a budget, this may be the way to go.
Longer pot life: A longer pot life makes it a bit easier to use
Chemical Resistant: Can withstand almost anything
Durability: Dries very hard and can withstand traffic

Cons of an epoxy floor

Not Uv Stable: Epoxy will change color and lose it's shine 
Dry Time: Takes longer to dry, takes a few days to complete installation
Rigid: Will not expand or contract along with the concrete, can chip, less durable


Pro's Of A Polyapsartic floor

Versatile: Can be applied in may conditions and temperatures, even exterior
Durability: Dries hard but remains flexible which increases it's durability
Quick dry time: Cures within 30 minutes, making jobs go fast
Colorfast: Will not fade or yellow

Cons of a polyaspartic floor

Expensive: This will be your most expensive floor, extra skilled labor is needed due to the quick cure times
Hard To apply: The hardest to apply even for a skilled crew
Possible failure: If your concrete gives off moisture, polyaspartic may lose its bond and peel

SO what's your pick? For us it is a combination, an epoxy undercoat with a polyaspartic top coat

                                         

Monday, November 18, 2019

Metallic Epoxy Samples

Metallic Epoxy

If you have not heard of metallic epoxy you will soon in our area.
In other parts of the country metallic epoxy is used inside people's homes, in kitchens, on the entire first floor, in garages, stores and more.

It offers a very unique and custom element to any area and brings the wow factor to the space it is used in. WIth any epoxy however you have to know what you're doing and be able to follow very specific details when applying this product.

With metallic epoxy it is very creative and artistic so it does not mean any person can do it, you have to make adjustments on the fly, no two floors or applications will ever be the same for this reason and we prefer to have one person working on the floor at least in the final creative portion otherwise you will end up with two different techniques, this also can be fine too as it is custom.

It is hard to match certain looks on sample pieces unless the person doing the sample also does the application. Many things go into the final look, the base coat, the lighting of the room and the reflection of those lights can also change the look not to mention the metallic pigments will also change, the way your application looks the first day is not what it will look like the next.

Here you can see we had an old table lying around so why not coat it with metallic epoxy?
 We used Armorpoxy of New Jersey high solid epoxy clear along with metallic pigments., at first you can see we disbursed the epoxy with alcohol but then decided to go over it, we added blue highlights with epoxy and white using a spray can and then hand created the final look. You can contact us for any epoxy project you have in mind, we would love to take a look at it



Tuesday, October 8, 2019

Epoxy Flooring Solutions

Epoxy Flooring Solutions

When you think of an epoxy floor normally you picture a warehouse or maybe those box store kits you see at the stores but epoxy floors can and are used throughout homes and many places in the business setting.
Don't lock yourself in a box, you can be so creative with where you use an epoxy floor, you can embed a logo or design into any floor using the right products to truly make the floor an extension of your personality or brand your company. How awesome would it look when people walk into your business lobby and your logo is sitting on the floor with a nice shiny clear coat over it. 

Stand Out From The Competition

When your clients arrive at your business this may in some cases be the first impression they get about you and your business, a peeling floor or vinyl tiled floor is not the best impression.

Make a splash and show them what your company is all about, a metallic floor may be an option to make a grand entrance whether in your business or home. We can help with samles and design ideas for any floor. Trust me there is a solution for almost any application or surface.

Epoxy is for safety too

Epoxy floors offer protection of not only the surface but also anyone walking on it, by adding flakes or another aggregate (sand, silica) we can make any floor anti-slip which is important as epoxy floors can be slippery when wet or when they have grease or other contaminants on them, by simply adding something to the epoxy or broadcasting into the coating this can be taken care of right away which is perfect to protect your clients or family from slipping.

Price is an issue?

Is price an issue with a floor? It may seem that way but when you break down the costs it is actually a very competitive option for a floor. To have an easily cleaned, anti-slip coating with unlimited options in design it is very comparative in price to vinyl, wood or almost any other type of floor installed and much more protective and durable and in a food manufacturing facility it is a must.

Schedule your Epoxy Floor Estimate Here



Wednesday, October 2, 2019

Ryan Amato painting completes epoxy floor in Bethlehem

Ryan Amato Painting completes floor in Bethlehem, Pa

We recently completed this awesome floor for an even better client, it was a thrill to be able to help Ryan and his family out with their floor.

It was always a dream of his to have a nice functional floor that looks great too.
We started by cleaning the floor and applying a hard surface primer to be assured of adhesion.

Without preparing a floor correctly you can have some major issues. Once it was clean and rimed, we added WB 250 base coat and then an intermediate coat with a heavy partial broadcast of flakes

Once that was done we returned the next day, removed the extra flakes and added a clear top coat to help protect it all.

If you need an epoxy floor done for your home, facility or business lease call 484-821-7112 or email bidrequests@ryanamatopaintingllc.com.
www.ryanamatopainting.com

Here is a video of this entire process.

Friday, September 13, 2019

How much is an epoxy garage floor?

So you want an epoxy floor?

An epoxy floor for your garage or business can dramatically change the look of your space plus adding protection and safety through anti-slip additives. But how much will this really cost?


There are many factors that will go into your pricing and for simplicity sake, we will assume your hiring s professional company that does floors every day, not a painting company or jack of all trades who does them once in a while. There is a difference.

What is the current condition of the floor?

What is currently on their floor? Another coating? Sealer , paint etc, if there is a coating on the floor most likely it till need to be removed, adding costs

What is the condition of the floor? Do you have cracks? Divots, or spalling concrete?
That will in most cases need to be patched adding costs

What look do you want? A basic solid floor, a partial or full flaked floor? Metallic? Quartz? These all come with different price lines.




What will the floor be used for? A normal garage with a few cars? A working garage? A home shop? Each of these uses many require different products.

What is the turn around time you desire? When do you want to be back on the floor? A full cure is needed before you drive back on the floor, different products can shorten this time depending on use, but it adds cost.




Materials:


Materials are a huge part of the cost for epoxy floors: Material costs can vary between .75 cents a sq ft up to and over $10 a sq ft or more for specialty floors such as anti-static floors, metallics, etc. All adding cost

It is imperative you understand a good installed epoxy floor is not inexpensive but using the professional products you will get a long-lasting industrial grade floor.

You will have some companions come in saying they are using epoxy but when you dive into the datasheets you may see your actually getting a much thinner coating then what we offer, this is where they can lower costs and still tell you your receiving an epoxy floor, remember not all epoxy coatings are the same, they all will leave different levels of thickness when applied and appl have different uses. You need to ask how thick of a coating you will receive, you may receive some pricing that seems high at first but is actually more affordable than the cheaper price you received because you're getting a thicker coating. Thicker means better and long-lasting in epoxy terms (mills)

KNOW WHAT PRODUCTS ARE BEING USED




So how much does it cost? These are recent examples, your floor may be different

Atypical residential 2 car garage between 400-450 sq ft using a partial flake, with normal prep, quick easy grind, one coat high solid epoxy with flake and a clear topcoat many cost between $5-9 a sq ft

To remove a coating add another $1-3 a sq ft
T0 add a full flake prepare to Spears another $1-3 a sq ft
Add a second clear coat $2-3 sq ft
To use a metallic coating custom design prepare to spend between $8-$12 a sq ft

There is really no clear cut answer as there are so many options and the different materials and application techniques done